Ash and Mahogany in particular come in so many variants and have great variety between pieces. For example, most kiln dried alder boards weigh between 2.4-2.8 LB per board foot. Either way, RW looks nicer up close, IMO. Since it grows from Southeast Alaska to Central California and almost always within 125 miles of the Pacific Coast, a plentiful and affordable supply existed practically in Fender’s backyard. Jun 17, 2014 #7 Ladera said: Hi Ron, You know your stuff about guitars. im also alergic to it. Problem with Basswood, of course, is if you want to modify it, you run the risk of it crumbling to splinters. You may enjoy this Janka scale 'wood' chart. from audio-pro-central.com - Basswood Poplar is what is used in the Music Man Steve Morse guitar. We used some awhile back. I don't have personal experience with Poplar, but my 51 is Basswood and sounds far more rich and full than my other two guitars, whcih are both Alder. Same with poplar, alder, mahogany, ash, and agathis. Could the basswood be the problem? Use a spectrum analyzer, you say? As for Fender switching over to using alder instead of poplar etc. The older MIA Peavey Predators were made out of poplar. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their. Basswood: the principal wood used on many Japanese made instruments. yeah i had the j. mascis jazzmaster for a short time...... didn't like the basswood at all. Definitely a punchier more focused and deadened tone compared to the vast majority of alder super-strats I've played. Alder is overall more desirable because it looks better in burst and trans finishes, basically. from audio-pro-central.com - Basswood Poplar: one of the softer hardwoods, nicely resonant with a meaty tone. Fender's website says alder!!! Guitar Tone Woods A tone guide for Guitar Tone Woods. The woods used to build guitars—acoustic guitars in particular—are called tonewoods, and they have enormous effects on the sound and price of an instrument. The sound is better, however, when it comes to the upper mid-range. So Many Guitars, So Little Time. Fender switched from poplar to alder on all the MIM models back in 2001. fender used alot of poplar in the past. Upload or insert images from URL. if you plan on painting it solid, id pick poplar. It sounded like a Strat. Your previous content has been restored. Alder has a much narrower range of weight than Punky Ash. Ash and alder are much harder woods. Pasted as rich text. Pine is softer than poplar. its not pretty. Why anybody would make a guitar/bass body out of the stuff is a mystery. it also depends on the moisture content, green wood is almost always softer than dry. But IMO the feel is SLIGHTLY more hard than rosewood. Today we will be having a look at two of the most popular, specifically for the bodies of Fender guitars; ash and alder… dixie789456, May 14, 2008 in Electric Guitars. warmoth's wood is usually pretty good stuff so we'll see what happens. Fender used to routinely substitute alder for poplar prior to that whenever they would get a cheaper batch. from ultimate-guitar.com - (No mention of basswood - may not be considered a tonewood by them.) lots of guitars have used poplar. I'm building a Tele and am carefully considering poplar and alder for the body. Ash is little bright for me so I'm not considering it. Was it a success? Poplar tonewoods are understated and minimalistic in appearance. That's why in the early days, Fender used pine and other cheaper woods for guitar bodies. Messages 568. Poplar and alder have essentially the same tonal character. Does body wood have an effect on the tone of an electric guitar? Some people say that Poplar is more consistent than Alder, Ash and Mahogany. Clear editor. If you can, try out an early 00's MIM tele, they had poplar bodies. I've found that rubbing some lemon oil into the PF fretboard helps to darken it. These larger rings and sections add to its strength, and the complexity of the tones. it made the guitar too light and cheap feeling..... hence my warmoth project. its a little softer than the honduran mahogany one next to it. i have a canadian poplar blank here. Poplar vs Alder Tele When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. × Paste as plain text instead, × Technically, poplar is not a softwood since it is a deciduous tree. i hate locust - you can never kill the things...oh, we're talking guitars, sorry. I'd rather have it than basswood. Poplar has a greenish tint to it that doesn't look great in sunburst or transparent finishes as compared to alder. Not all woods are suitable for use in all parts of a guitar. Tony Done 2008-11-26 09:17:44 UTC. if poplar is the closest thing to alder tonaly then why is it so hated? Alder. It also has a large swirling grain pattern to it. Your link has been automatically embedded. It looks good with a sunburst or a solid color finish. It is defintely NOT soft like basswood. How does an alder body guitar sound when the neck is all maple compared to a maple neck with rosewood finger board? It's a little difficult to compare to a Strat since it has a tone-o-matic and a flat tailpiece, but I feel confident to say that if you want "good" sound it won't be any worse than Alder. The reason had nothing to do with tone, but simply price. My old orange-crackle 88 Charvel H/S (neck-thru w/jackson-floyd and pickups) was a good sounding poplar guitar. Inside the Luthier's Shop with BigDGuitars.com. I've found out the Classic is supposedly 3 pieces (no reason to assume Fender are lying). Is this list complete? i plan to paint so wood color dosen't matter to me. I wonder what wenge would be on that chart. You cannot paste images directly. Alternatively, many 8/4 Guitar Ash weights are between 2.0-3.0 LB/BF. nope. My Standard is one of the last poplars, and I have to say it's a splendid guitar!Stephen. The frequencies of the heavier guitar were shifted to the bottom range with heaps of bass and lower mids while the lighter guitar had less bass. Hardwoods have density weight and tone. Namelyguitar , Mar 13, 2012 I use a lot of poplar - it is used in the woodworking trade for a lot of paint grade stuff (baseboards & other molding). Overall I do prefer alder … What Does an Alder Guitar … Virtually every website refers to solid colur Classics as being poplar. many of the most sought after san dimas jacksons/charvels have poplar-bodies. The best sounding guitar I ever owned was a swampash tele now played by my son. The only thing wrong with poplar is the ugly green streaks. Various woods have distinct sound qualities, especially when used for the top of an acoustic guitar, which is the most important wooden tonal element of the instrument. This may be a little off subject from the strat classic specifically, but I tend to disagree with nocasters statement that Alder and Poplar are similar in tone. Fender used to routinely substitute alder for poplar prior to that whenever they would get a cheaper batch. Alder is harder than poplar. One of the guitars was significantly heavier than the other. Poplar is also very soft, almost as soft as basswood. i'm doing my next build with poplar just to see how it sounds. Alder's natural color is a light tan with little or no distinct grain lines. Jun 17, 2014 #6 L. Lihns Member. Pao Ferro vs Rosewood: Rosewood is darker, more traditional, but feels very similar to Pao Ferro. gonna be hugger orange with matching headstock and a vintage pearl pickguard. The relative disadvantages of poplar are that it is not well suited to use with transparent colours, and that on average a guitar body will weigh about 1/2 lb more. sometimes i think a guitarists tone is in his eyes. ah..... o.k. Alder is a fast growing deciduous tree adapted to swampy areas and self sufficient in nitrogen uptake. Poplar with extremely dense mineral staining can be heavier than normal. Many guitar manufacturers as a substitute for alder are using this wood, as it is quite similar in tone. The reason had nothing to do with tone, but simply price. As you might expect, hard ash tonewood is relatively hard, dense and heavy compared to swamp ash. From Warmoth: Poplar (Liriodendron tulipifera): The relative disadvantages of poplar are that it is not well suited to use with transparent colours, and that on average a guitar body will weigh about 1/2 lb more. That’s where you come in. × Poplar's not much better, at 540 on the Janka scale. Poplar doesn't sound good on all guitars and neither does Alder. (only mentioned that it sounds similar, but not how it differs.) Alder's natural color is a light tan with little or no distinct grain lines. You tell me!Not a scientific test, you say? That’s where you come in. Poplar is a pretty neutral wood, much like alder, in term of resonance. Some people will swear that it sounds different but most say it's similar to alder. > "I've found out the Classic is supposedly 3 pieces (no reason to assume Fender are lying).". Black Alder (Alnus Glutinosa). ...Cost/availability. The pickups have been in other guitars I've owned and sounded fine. Either way, RW looks nicer up close, IMO. So, Im looking at buying a cheap strat copy then modding it with new pickups, new electrics, tuners etc and i was wondering which wood is better. Body, Neck and Fingerboard. Sounds great to me! Poplar is the read-headed step child of woods. in any case, poplar is a great wood for guitars. A hugger orange Jazzmaster (or any guitar for that matter) is gonna kick all kinds of ass! Alder used to be very popular in the 1950s and 1960s, and many Fender guitars from that era are made from Alder.Today it is a bit more expensive of a wood, relatively, and isn’t as common. i'm doing my next build with poplar just to see how it sounds. Swamp ash was used on Fender guitars until the mid-50s when alder was chosen as its successor. Cost? (only mentioned that it sounds similar, but not how it differs.) Overall I do prefer alder because it just seems to have a more "life" to the tone. Poplar - Tonally, it is similar to Alder. Body Woods Alder Similar to Basswood, alder is lightweight with soft tight pores. im doing my next build with poplar just to see how it sounds. its one of the easiest woods to finish, and you can get 1 piece body blanks for $25 or less. didn't the older fender 62 reissues which I loved by the way have poplar bodies? Like alder, poplar is a type of wood that’s commonly used to manufacture many things. Seems risky, seeing as... you don't know how it sounds. ah i have a 2000 mim floyd rose fat strat....... poplar maybe? if poplar is the closest thing to alder tonaly then why is it so hated? It is lightweight, has beautiful grain patterns, and gives a warm sound with plenty of highs. the problem with wenge is less the hardness and more the oil content. I think most of my preferences are actually falsely arrived at, I always thought I liked rosewood fingerboards best, but my last guitar I bought was ebony and the one I'm putting together now is maple and I think they both feel great too. Poplar - also a lightweight wood which has a sound similar to alder but lighter in color. Call if you want to discuss the properties and tonalities of these woods. i have a book matched drop top and about 4-5 fretboards and a through neck stringer her that i wont be using anytime soon. , Leo was a business man and used whatever he had on hand, nothing went to waste. its actually roughly the same hardness as alder and quite alot harder than basswood. I have made quite a few guitars from Poplar, including two tele bodies. That said, Id much rather have a good poplar body of few pieces, than an alder body made up of mega pieces and veneers. That said, Id much rather have a good poplar body of few pieces, than an alder body made up of mega pieces and … Poplar - also a lightweight wood which has a sound similar to alder but lighter in color. It looks good with a sunburst or a solid color finish. As you might guess, red alder is the one used for guitars in general — and Fender guitars in particular. If you plan on painting it solid, id pick poplar try out early! 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